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Some Telegram signal channels have a strange record: their calls almost never hit the stop loss. Trade after trade closes in profit, and the few losses that do happen are rare enough to be forgotten.
It looks like skill. Often it is something much simpler. The stop loss is placed so far away that the price rarely reaches it, and the strategy quietly depends on one setting most beginners don't fully understand: cross margin.
The Trick: A Stop Loss at -200% or More
On futures, profit and loss is usually shown as ROI, measured against the margin you put into the trade. A stop loss at -50% ROI means you lose half of the margin on that position if it gets hit.
Some channels set their stop loss at -200%, -300% or even further. At that distance, the price has to move a long way against you before the stop triggers, so most trades get the chance to bounce back and hit a small first target instead. The win rate looks fantastic.
But wait: how can you lose more than 100% of your margin? That's where margin mode comes in.
Isolated vs Cross Margin, Explained Simply
When you open a futures position, you choose how the exchange handles your margin:
- Isolated margin: only the margin you assigned to that trade is at risk. If the trade goes badly, the position is liquidated at around -100% ROI, and the rest of your balance is untouched.
- Cross margin: your whole futures balance supports the position. If the trade goes against you, the exchange keeps it open by using the rest of your funds. The position can show -200%, -500% or worse, and it is only liquidated when your entire balance can no longer support it.
Binance shows how to choose between the two modes in its official guide on switching between cross and isolated margin.
The Math Behind It
Let's use a simple example. You have $1,000 in your futures wallet on cross margin. A signal says 20x leverage, and you use $50 of margin, which opens a $1,000 position.
- Target 1 at +20% ROI: the price moves 1% in your favor. You make +$10.
- Stop loss at -200% ROI: the price moves 10% against you. You lose -$100.
Now look at it the way the channel does. If 9 out of 10 trades hit Target 1 and only one hits the stop loss, the channel advertises a 90% win rate. Your actual result:
- 9 wins x $10 = +$90
- 1 loss x $100 = -$100
- Total: -$10
A 90% win rate, and you are still losing money. One stop loss erased nine wins. And if the stop is even wider, or the signal has no real stop at all, a single bad trade on cross margin can take down your entire balance.
Why It's So Effective as Marketing
This setup is attractive to channels for a simple reason: it produces the numbers that sell subscriptions.
- High win rate. Small targets close fast, and wide stops rarely trigger.
- Few visible losses. When losses are rare, they are easy to downplay or leave out of the results.
- The real cost is hidden. Followers on isolated margin get liquidated before the stop, so the channel can still say "stop loss was not hit".
- It works in calm markets. The weakness only shows up during strong trends or sudden crashes, which is exactly when accounts get wiped out.
How to Spot It Before You Lose Money
When you look at any signal channel, check these points:
- Compare the stop loss to the first target. If the stop is 5 or 10 times further away than Target 1, the high win rate comes from the structure, not from skill.
- Ask which margin mode the signals assume. If a stop loss below -100% ROI only makes sense on cross margin, you are risking your whole balance on every trade.
- Look at the size of losses, not just how many. A record with a 90% win rate and huge losses can be worse than one with 70% and controlled losses.
- Check that losses are published. Rare losses are only meaningful if every one of them is shown.
- Do your own math. Add up the average win and the average loss, not just the number of winning trades.
For more on how leverage changes these numbers, read our guide on leverage explained: 10x vs 75x, and our 5 risk management rules for signal followers.
Protect Yourself, Whatever Channel You Follow
- Use isolated margin for signal trades, so one trade can never drain your whole account
- Decide your maximum loss per trade in dollars before you enter, not after
- Keep position sizes small enough that a stop loss is painful but not dangerous
- Don't move or remove a stop loss because a trade "should" come back
How We Handle It at Bullstar Signals
Every Bullstar signal includes a stop loss, and every stop loss that gets hit is published in our public track record, right next to the wins.
Final Thoughts
A channel that almost never hits its stop loss isn't necessarily a great channel. Very often, it is a channel with a stop loss so far away that it only works by putting your whole account on the line through cross margin.
Before trusting any win rate, look at where the stop loss sits, which margin mode it assumes, and how big the losses really are. The number of wins tells you very little. The size of the losses tells you almost everything.